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Old 06-12-2008, 07:20 PM   #1
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This weekend I plan on starting my investigation into creating hydrogen for use as an inline additive to the intake. I'm just doing some small scale experiments first to freshen up on my high school chemistry. The ultimate plan is to use some high conductance electrodes, maybe graphite, submerged in a solution of purified water with one of several variables like noniodized salt, baking soda, etc.. Then run a low amperage current to the electrodes, anode and cathode, and watch the bubbles. The ones coming from the anode should be hydrogen and the ones from the cathode should be oxygen. Then, pull the vapor into the intake via engine vacuum and pray it doesn't blow the head gaskets out.

I'll update on my progress.
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:01 PM   #2
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Holy shizat!

Let us know how it goes.
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Old 06-13-2008, 02:37 PM   #3
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dude... I'm no chemist, but cant hydrogen explode? Like in those old-skool blimp photos?
If it works, cool, just dont blow up
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dude... I'm no chemist, but cant hydrogen explode? Like in those old-skool blimp photos?
If it works, cool, just dont blow up
Think about what you just asked. Of course hydrogen can explode. But so can gasoline vapors.
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sure, im sorry about that. what I guess i was after was the tank that the anode/cathode are in.
sorry about that.
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No need to apologize. I was merely pointing that out. Hydrogen is no more dangerous than gasoline as a fuel source as long as the system is properly designed. Most people associate hydrogen with the Hindenburg accident, and that gives them negative attitudes towards hydrogen.
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:09 PM   #7
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If you get it working, don't forget the copyrights and patents! $$$
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Old 06-15-2008, 06:28 PM   #8
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I put some filtered water and iodized salt in a clear plastic container. I hooked up my 3amp converter to 2 carbon electrodes and turned it on. Instantly the anode turned white with hydrogen bubbles. I started getting some green clumps in the water so I will use distilled water next time. I couldn't find a balloon and match to have some fun with but that will come soon enough. I'll try and get a video posted soon to show what I'm doing. I know there are some on youtube already.

I'll post with more progress as I get it.
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Old 06-15-2008, 08:24 PM   #9
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There is alot of interesting stuff on the internet regarding using hydrogen.

Here's one example (I am not selling this, just find it interesting because I am doing research in this area).

http://www.runyourcarwithwater.com/?hop=cyprusmete
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I've built the controlling circuit for a hydrogen generator. but i have yet to get the rods to test it out. I found the circuit some inventor designed. I forget the guys name but aparently the guy colapsed outside a resturant screaming poisen and died. who knows how true that story is.

Anyways, The problems with adding hydrogen to the mix is, 1 the engine timing and also the H2O2 mix that gets generated adds air to the intake and your ox sensors will think to much air is getting into the system, could cause the engine to choke.

Mythbusters did a special on getting 100 MPG using special carbs with no luck and they also did a hydrogen generator. They could not get it to run off the generator. but did get the engine to slightly stutter with strait hydrogen from a bottle.

I think the best case with this now would be to add the hydrogen to the gas mix and somehow adjust the ox sensors to bypass the extra air intake from the mix.

I'm rambling a little. RedHat, Let us know what you get with this, im very intrested.
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