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srd357

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they are selling "chips" that are about $10.00 and will increase HP up tp 45 and increase GPH by 12. Has anybody tryed these? Is it BS?
I realy like the one with the girl in the tight dress!!
Thanks Steve
 

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its BS and all it is is a diode that tells the computer that you are allways sucking in cold air only give like 2+ HP but it is a waste of time
 

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they are selling "chips" that are about $10.00 and will increase HP up tp 45 and increase GPH by 12. Has anybody tryed these? Is it BS?
I realy like the one with the girl in the tight dress!!
Thanks Steve

you got a site for them. their claims are a little out there you can expect to get an increase of about 20 hp with a name brand programer/chip.
 

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I've looked at them too on ebay and read the reviews that buyers wrote. A lot of them said that there was no improvement and it was a waste. I thought maybe I would try one but after reading the produce reviews decided not to.
 

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Most of those basically tell your engine it's running colder than it actually is (as someone just said). Which, without a doubt, isn't 100% safe or foolproof. Some of them Advance your timing and you'll see some claiming MPG+, which retard your timing. All a bunch of crap. Be weiry of anything that costs $10 for your vehicle anyways. You can't get 3 Quarts of good oil for that amount of money, and it certainly isn't worth the self-destruction of your vehicle. :ack:

Leave nonsense like this to the inbreds in the Jap Cars. :gy:
 

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don't waste your money on those ebay chips, becuase they are nothing more than a $1 diode u can buy at radio shack. get a hypertech, they claim it gives u 12hp and 2-3 mpg at the same time! well worth $300, plus it installs without even getting dirty or using tools. i don't have the programmer, i just have the hyperpack. it was easy to install and i can feel the difference in the upper rpm range for sure. if u really wanna "feel" it get new gears in your rear end (and front diff if u have 4x4). 4.10 ratio gives way more noticeable "get-up-and-go" than any performance mod you could do short of swapping out for a big block or getting an 8+ psi supercharger.

if u always drive 70 on the interstate then the 4.10 gears will rape your gas mileadge. u will lose several mpg. it is best for towing and city driving, and of course embarassing people at the local mud run...


my k&n fipk (filter injection performance kit) claims 9.5hp on the dyno sheet that came with it. not bad for $200

and msd ignition gives a good boost on the upper and lower rpm range. not bad for $180 at summit ($120 on ebay)
 

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Amen to that, sir. I can't stress how good K&N Drop-Ins are. I've had a K&N in just every machine I've ever owned since I was probably 15 years old. Dirt Bikes, All the ATV's, Cars & Trucks. I still don't trust the "cold airs" completely but millions of people run them without any ill effects. The whole (Naked) without an airbox deal seams unsuited for any offroad use or if you're out in the country driving on dirt roads behind other drivers. I used to run a "cold air" on my old Racing Three-Wheeler, -used- to. The amount of dust, dirt and grime that can be sucked up is staggering at times.
 
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The chips are not worth it. Get with me and we can order you up a handheld programmer, you will be pleased there!
 

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what are the prices on the hand held programers?
 
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Hi. Please email us at [email protected] and I will be able to price anything you need. I cannot advertise some pricing online because it is too low...
 

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my k&n is the full intake. harder to install but worth a few more hp
 

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i had a tb spacer on my s10 4.3v6 it seemed to help high rpm torque a bit, nothing very noticeable tho. but for $60 and 30 minutes to install i think i got my monies worth.
 

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str8 from an ebay guide:

These items have sprung up like weeds in any automotive parts search: Speed Mod Chips. They claim to boost HP by 10-20 (more recent ones claim 70+ - unlikely) and not void any warranty.

EDIT: Similar devices are being sold as "gas savers". Just as with these purported "chips", they are nothing more than resistors and will do little to nothing to help improve fuel economy or performance. Only a properly maintained and tuned engine, properly inflated tires, good quality fuel, and sensible driving habits will improve your vehicle's fuel economy.

WRONG

These aren't "chips" at all, only a resistor. Many of these "chips" are plugged into the IAT, or Intake Air Temperature Sensor connector. The IAT is a Thermistor that changes a reference voltage to the engine's computer (usually 5 volts). This voltage is translated onto a "temperature" and the computer will increase or decrease fuel delivery according to this temperature. Cold air is more dense and requires more fuel, hot air requires the opposite.

This "chip" fools the computer into thinking the intake air is colder than it really is and consequently feeds more fuel into the combustion chamber. While many sellers state that the chip keeps fuel delivery within a certain "curve", this information means nothing. The modification essentially forces the engine to run rich all the time. The idea is more fuel equals more power. Unfortunately, rich running conditions will actually rob the engine of power, as the air/fuel ratio is far from ideal and will make combustion more difficult.

Today's computer controlled engines rely on a battery of sensors to help it run properly. If one sensor does not operate properly, the "runability" of the engine is adversely affected. In the case of a constant rich condition, the oxygen sensors will recognize that there is unburned fuel in the exhaust (due to poor combustion from the bad air/fuel ratio). As a result the PCM will command the engine to run lean in an attempt to correct the condition. (if the mod chip doesn't cause the engine to run OVERLY rich, the computer can negate all effects of the "chip" by LEANING the fuel ratio, making the mod useless!). If the rich condition cannot be corrected by leaning the ratio, guess what? You get a big, fat CHECK ENGINE light! (They claim the mod won't trigger that, either!) And if your vehicle is under warranty and the dealership finds that stupid little resistor where your IAT should be connected, you can KISS YOUR WARRANTY GOOD-BYE!

EDIT: Any "gas saver" that tricks the engine into running leaner can also be negated by O2 sensors that detect a lean condition. The PCM can and will attempt to richen the mixture in an attempt to achieve that ideal air/fuel ratio. If the PCM cannot correct the condition within certain parameters then the check engine light will be triggered and lean codes set.

If your vehicle is out of warranty and you ignore the light, more severe damage can occur. The catalytic converter cannot cope with excessive amounts of unburned fuel and after a while of running rich and dumping raw fuel into the catalyst, the converter will be permanently damaged. Raw fuel and poor combustion will also foul the plugs and foul plugs have high resistance. High resistance can damage the ignition system! Lastly, raw fuel can wash down and glaze the cylinders, and it can wash out the oil ring on the piston which will negatively affect piston lubrication and will cost compression.

The bottom line is this: The "mod chips" DO NOT boost horsepower - the graphs they show are fake. They DO set the Check Engine Light. They DO void the manufacturer's warranty. And they CAN cause severe engine damage. Anybody considering this cheap performance enhancing option should think again and invest in a real, professionally programmed performance enhancing chip that REALLY adjusts fuel and timing curves. These pro chips cost more money for a reason: they work. These cheap eBay "mod chips" DO NOT.

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http://reviews.ebay.com/ebaymotors/...ot-Gas-Savers-quot_W0QQugidZ10000000001478993
 

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They're about as useful as a throttle body spacer on these trucks.


:rolleyes2: On what trucks? they actually work on some tahoes including my model 97 with the tbi injection. Noticed a difference right away. :thumbsup:
Dont think they work on the 99 and up models though if thats what your talking about
 
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